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Dentology Podcast with Moonis Iqbal

 

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Transcript – Dentology Podcast with guest Moonis Iqbal

Episode release date – Monday 27 February 2023

andy___chris:
here we are again another one and you sitting down another wonderful guest to talk to and find out the wait wait so today we are we are over the moon absolutely over the moon one by Moonis Iqbal. Moonis is a dentist also the principal of two dental practices passionate about body wood and also

moonis_iqbal:
ye

andy___chris:
known as the body wood dentist and a very very kind soul

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
is a very very man welcome ones how are you doing

moonis_iqbal:
good morning guys thank you so much for greeting this wonderful opportunity really very thankful i’m really very honored

andy___chris:
nice to see

moonis_iqbal:
to be

andy___chris:
you

moonis_iqbal:
around

andy___chris:
thanks

moonis_iqbal:
here

andy___chris:
for coming on

moonis_iqbal:
nice to see you guys again

andy___chris:
we’re very grateful to you we know you’re well just by virtue of the introduction you’re clearly a busy guys and making

moonis_iqbal:
yah

andy___chris:
the time for us we’re grateful definitely

moonis_iqbal:
now it’s always always for you guys it’s been real pleasure

andy___chris:
not at all so

moonis_iqbal:
her

andy___chris:
just just before we start mona

moonis_iqbal:
m

andy___chris:
and we kind of get into your your dental career is kind of the interesting bit for our audience what things from your teen age years of shape who you are today there are of those things in your

moonis_iqbal:
m

andy___chris:
your youth that really sort of stick with you today

moonis_iqbal:
yeah so thank you that’s a really very

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
crucial question to get you into the insight so i came i grew up in india my early education

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
my school university college it’s all come from india

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
and i am born and brought up in a very sort of joined family so that means my father is the brother the sister the cats they all used to live in the same house time so it’s like almost thirty thirty five people living in the same house when i’m growing up

andy___chris:
wow

moonis_iqbal:
so you can see that sort of community and that sort of sharing thing comes from that side that we don’t have not from very rich family to come with this very middle class and average but we’ve been raised well so we’ve been told all the right

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
things when growing up your values your family

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
we used look after

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
your family look after your other sisters look after your cousins and then to go for a

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
further ahead and then say have a good ad ucation i mean my my dad lways

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
always stressed on education he never accumulate any wealth in his lifetime but his wealth is his his value or whatever thas stand for whatever value stand for and sam still in me and my brothers and all as well so i think that was a very crucial part when i realized so early in my the importance of sharing the things with people staying in a community to help

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
each other not to be

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
more selfish about yourself

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
on

andy___chris:
the great values to start off with and it’s really interesting to hear you talk about you know education in so important isn’t it that i think

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
quite often you you live in a country and i’ve lived in england all my life where you know education is just part of the system you

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
know it’s not

moonis_iqbal:
what i

andy___chris:
something

moonis_iqbal:
mean

andy___chris:
that i guess gets

moonis_iqbal:
yep

andy___chris:
valued in the same way to hear you you say that kind of education was something that was to be really cherished and appreciated and valued that’s a that’s a great start point in life isn’t it particularly

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
with the career you chose requires ongoing education

moonis_iqbal:
it’s it’s a very very very competitive world out there and

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
it’s much difference when i’m just jumping at a little bit but when i moved

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
to the first time and i was

andy___chris:
yes

moonis_iqbal:
at that time i was speaking to my cousins and their friends and

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
all they are in the young they re in the youth as well and i saw that such a difference between the mind set and the people there and the

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
minds of other people when they’re growing

andy___chris:
ye

moonis_iqbal:
up here so they i mean we were so focused that what we’re going to do in future what carrier will

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
be like how how were earning our living what profession we will

andy___chris:
yes

moonis_iqbal:
be in that’s what the whole chat in our circle of friends circle

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
every we

andy___chris:
yes

moonis_iqbal:
said always constantly thinking about what’s our carrier will be like

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
where will wait five years later and he is more people were talking about what holidays they’ve been to last year

andy___chris:
uh

moonis_iqbal:
have you been to tyeland have you been to australia

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
they were they were upset about

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
the miss the new play station game or something i’m really

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
upset to the stress and why o dude this was such a good deal going when i missed it and i said really you’re upset about that

andy___chris:
yeah oh

moonis_iqbal:
so this is quite a bit contrast when you compare the thing but that’s

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
what it is you know and you have to make the best of

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
and you have to adopt the things as well you know i can’t keep ling on back and back

andy___chris:
absolutely

moonis_iqbal:
and think ye

andy___chris:
absolutely so i was going to ask what

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
did you you m you mentioned you had some brothers i think the lions what did they become have they gone

moonis_iqbal:
so

andy___chris:
you know the obviously as you all did education so any more dent in the family or

moonis_iqbal:
yeah my cousin one of my cousins is dentist as well as she after my i sorted my things out example on she also i gave she came and stay with me she did all the dental example she is working as associate in birmingham as well

andy___chris:
uh h

moonis_iqbal:
and

andy___chris:
h

moonis_iqbal:
my third two younger peters one of er youngest one is here as well

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
and he must have met in a dentontibues thing trois working

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
with tobils now in marketing and social side of diwinds

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
and other

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
ones in puna near bombay

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
he’s also working for a software company and touch very happy and very proud to say that all my cousins have

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
done well a couple of them are in america one is working from microsof

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
they’ve all been visiting me very nowadays very often

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
so yeah

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
those things

andy___chris:
well

moonis_iqbal:
haven’t

andy___chris:
so you’re

moonis_iqbal:
been

andy___chris:
you’re you’re

moonis_iqbal:
haven’t

andy___chris:
well spread

moonis_iqbal:
been wasted

andy___chris:
out the

moonis_iqbal:
yeah i mean kind of a ground we started so it’s only thirty years

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
back and then now

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
what we all are is very very very very different and i think they all

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
do very well

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
and so yeah that’s what i realized that at that time they

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
and now as i said my family not to be like you know putting the money money money they never put that thing in mind i wish they could have instilled some sort of finance sensibility to us

andy___chris:
yeah yeah

moonis_iqbal:
yeah but again that’s why always one might at that he was the most successful fail i ve seen in my life

andy___chris:
yeah yeah so what was it that made that made you choose dentistry because you chose

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
dentistry and you qualified back in two thousand and six

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
in

moonis_iqbal:
and

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
india

andy___chris:
and

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
then came over to the u k but what was it that

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
kind of drew you drew you to the profession as

moonis_iqbal:
so

andy___chris:
a young monist

moonis_iqbal:
so

andy___chris:
h

moonis_iqbal:
story

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
behind that is that i was supposed to be the medicine and that’s not

andy___chris:
right

moonis_iqbal:
if you speak to most of the sistentis they have

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
pet a similar background

andy___chris:
ah

moonis_iqbal:
because in india at war in a way that you go on the common entrance example and if you’ve got higher grades you go for medic and if you’ve

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
got a lower grades you contentrustry then you go for mercy and then you vetinaris it works in that order for

andy___chris:
all

moonis_iqbal:
you

andy___chris:
right

moonis_iqbal:
so you have two choices either to take what you get on that year or you

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
drop one year and wait for the next year and restate that example that’s all in the exam so one of my uncle my father’s eldest brother he is settled in ucaneinwale south wales he’s a chap in south wales and he always had a very big influence on me

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
that i’m growing up seeing him that he settled in u as where

andy___chris:
ye

moonis_iqbal:
supposed to do so i always compare the life of my mind are

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
as a doctor as well he was

andy___chris:
right o

moonis_iqbal:
but his problem was that he runs a charitable hospital all his lifetime

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
on the hospital it’s like charitable trust

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
so that means he won’t charge many people for that and then

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
because the practice of not god has to move toward the business of medicines and medical

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
farmer citiforfarma seas as well so always a choice which if i want to

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
go so i want to make a good balance of both the things to take the values of my dead and to the life style of my uncle so

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
so i went to sit on the median entrance exam but you have on the first year i haven’t got great i missed my medicine for one

andy___chris:
but

moonis_iqbal:
point five marks so

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
i have a choice to wait for the whole year but then

andy___chris:
how is that how is that received in your household you missed it by a few marks but of a common theme though isn’t it really and there

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
is to be a number of people who just missed out on things it’s quite fascinating

moonis_iqbal:
yeah it’s

andy___chris:
that

moonis_iqbal:
a funk

andy___chris:
i think you’re right i think quite you see people and you never hear about those those kind

moonis_iqbal:
m

andy___chris:
of near missives they then go on to be successful

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
but yeah moon

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
you missed out by those few marks

moonis_iqbal:
yeah it’s one point five marks maybe two questions i would have even if

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
i have not attempted those questions would have because there’s a negative marking the few

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
take the wrong question you get negatively marked so yeah

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
but for a long time that’s another thing which i’ve been installed with my family my tides don’t recreate the things and they were on the top of the world they never said take up or why you mated to the medicine they said that’s fine

andy___chris:
it’s almost

moonis_iqbal:
amazing

andy___chris:
worse isn’t it missing by one and a half marks because

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
you sort o be better off missing by fifteen

moonis_iqbal:
fifteen exactly

andy___chris:
one and a half is like man if

moonis_iqbal:
man

andy___chris:
only i’d have done

moonis_iqbal:
you

andy___chris:
it’s

moonis_iqbal:
that that close your that close is always like that

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
that’s the maticulizers which hurt you more than the five mile five mail defeat

andy___chris:
you either

moonis_iqbal:
you

andy___chris:
want

moonis_iqbal:
know

andy___chris:
to really fail

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
rather than just fail because then you think

moonis_iqbal:
oh

andy___chris:
perhaps if i just done this or done that or whatever

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
as you can tell that’s a man speaking for experience i prefer to fail on something that disastrously rather than almost past not made up

moonis_iqbal:
faifilthik

andy___chris:
if you’re got to fail do it properly

moonis_iqbal:
properly

andy___chris:
it

moonis_iqbal:
yeah that’s a problem we don’t we don’t know even fail properly in audience

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
oh

andy___chris:
exactly exactly so

moonis_iqbal:
a

andy___chris:
so yeah so sodentacy

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
was your your chosen path

moonis_iqbal:
oh by

andy___chris:
what was your what was your experience at dental school like in like in india

moonis_iqbal:
so lucky to a very good university i mean they’re very strict they’re very strict with their kind of education and

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
it was

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
in south india like

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
i have to travel the same thing but i think some day mentioned in a spot cast that year

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
journey from my place to that is thirty two hours by train to university so it’s not like i can come on the week end on like that it’s like

andy___chris:
wow oh

moonis_iqbal:
so yeah you have to be starting

andy___chris:
how long was that journey ministry

moonis_iqbal:
it’s thirty two hours by train

andy___chris:
wow

moonis_iqbal:
thirty two hours day and a half and then to take the bus again

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
so it will take me almost one and a half to two days

andy___chris:
my

moonis_iqbal:
to reach to my university from my place oh

andy___chris:
it’s crazy isn’t it when you think of the size of the u k you put that into context it’s gonna say

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
you couldn’t actually take a train journey for thirty two hours i’m sure you could if you go sleeper train

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
but i got delayed was a strike a really remarkable remarkable

moonis_iqbal:
and

andy___chris:
journey

moonis_iqbal:
and and at that time you must imagine the indian trains at that time because we don’t as a student we were

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
not going any air conditioners or any of the a c coaches

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
or to fly we have

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
the option to just on

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
general sleeper lass and we enjoyed

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
that i mean i had a really good fun traveling that way all my friends just push the bag

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
where you get a place you just sit on the or or whatever

andy___chris:
ye

moonis_iqbal:
i mean would complain it was a really good time in the university

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
as well

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
so far

andy___chris:
uh

moonis_iqbal:
everything was here i’m very thankful for all those experiences because that’s what

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
i’ve made me what i am today

andy___chris:
yeah experiences make what are today it is i’ve got to

moonis_iqbal:
except

andy___chris:
ask mis did you ever sit on the top because whenever i see those films of some

moonis_iqbal:
oh

andy___chris:
of the indian trains that is just bug you ever get

moonis_iqbal:
you

andy___chris:
to

moonis_iqbal:
know

andy___chris:
sit top

moonis_iqbal:
no i’m not that brave you know

andy___chris:
you austral

moonis_iqbal:
i’m

andy___chris:
no

moonis_iqbal:
not

andy___chris:
way

moonis_iqbal:
stupid

andy___chris:
you look at it

moonis_iqbal:
i do set it in a toilet

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
one or twice time

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
just open the door and put the cover down and said there was no space in the train but in that

andy___chris:
it is may him though is not i don’t know

moonis_iqbal:
ah

andy___chris:
have you seen some of those

moonis_iqbal:
oh

andy___chris:
video clips of people getting on and off of

moonis_iqbal:
the thing is

andy___chris:
trains

moonis_iqbal:
that

andy___chris:
in india

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
and it i’m surprised more people don’t die it was

moonis_iqbal:
but

andy___chris:
many

moonis_iqbal:
that’s

andy___chris:
years ago

moonis_iqbal:
it

andy___chris:
i wasn’t in india went to egypt in in nineteen eighty eight and we took a train from cairo down to luxor as an overnight sleeper and when that rain came into the station there were hundreds of people on the roof

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
and when the train pulled into the station literally people just slid off the roof with their bags and left at the train station

moonis_iqbal:
eh

andy___chris:
like that was a class of travel

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
there was no embarrassment that the bee top

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
it was it was it was

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
it was incredible so

moonis_iqbal:
the problem

andy___chris:
so so so

moonis_iqbal:
is that

andy___chris:
you

moonis_iqbal:
there

andy___chris:
had your time in india you qualified and

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
then you came to the

moonis_iqbal:
oh

andy___chris:
u k we’ve we’ve talked to lots of different dentists on this on this show over the time we’ve been doing it and some of the kind of had you know really positive some of challenging experiences when they come to what what was your experience like when

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
you wen you you ou supported did you feel welcome

moonis_iqbal:
yeah yes

andy___chris:
what a couple of months and why you know what

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
made you sort of think i’ll tell you what out of britain

moonis_iqbal:
yeah so i mean when i was graduating during my final year of industry i made up my mind

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
that i do need to

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
i was very feted by london i’m still fetid by london that’s

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
one city i’ve always been anybody asked me why you came to you guys say i came to live in london and aly love london as a city from the

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
very start you seen again my most of my life is in fluencedon family and the movies you know i’m really stupid to say that but hear the movies have such a big impact and i keep saying london

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
and so many movies all the time and say oh that’s the place to pay you know on

andy___chris:
right

moonis_iqbal:
and

andy___chris:
that was western movies as well as polly wood you

moonis_iqbal:
but yeah

andy___chris:
interested movies

moonis_iqbal:
incan

andy___chris:
there’s a theme here isn’t

moonis_iqbal:
inane and that’s the team i’m living into that it’s a movie

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
now you have to make it interesting you know can’t be boring you know yuh

andy___chris:
yeah i bit

moonis_iqbal:
so

andy___chris:
bit of a side track here but you must be delighted that i was reading on

moonis_iqbal:
i

andy___chris:
the b b c that there’s the latest bollywood movie that is making big time in the us or something

moonis_iqbal:
but that was triple who owned that

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
golden globe as well

andy___chris:
yeah i mean it’s amazing amazing

moonis_iqbal:
i just post

andy___chris:
it’s quite

moonis_iqbal:
i just

andy___chris:
interesting

moonis_iqbal:
post i just posted

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
a video the director of that movie speaking to james kend for ten minutes on just one of the movie groups on facebookating yesterday probably

andy___chris:
fabulous fabulous

moonis_iqbal:
so yeah so i mean and also i’ve seen my uncle and my uncle always said that you come to your gate industry s er because that was always talking about the year two thousand four

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
and five before that all ud contracting came into place

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
and at that time i was turning to is

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
very free flow i have

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
a couple of my seniors who be moved to kay during that time

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
and they all were very appreciative of the outcome as a good life for dentist

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
here and so i have a choice rather

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
to go for a post graduating in i ought to come here so i prefer to come and i mean i’ve been for my first couple of years and and you was amazing i’ve been very welcome with mac with your friends

andy___chris:
yes

moonis_iqbal:
and of course findancside was a big type but again i

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
was very very very lucky

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
very fortunate to have that to have support from my family sir at that time

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
and things were not better at all

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
but he obviously everything takes time o my people i moved from to

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
with my friends and all at that time two thousand five and six and seven we’re talking about

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
so they all managed to get past their exams by two thousand eight or nine maxim by two and then but i has got since then all

andy___chris:
ay

moonis_iqbal:
issues started happening with my stuff fitting exam visa

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
i try to apply for two years can we

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
say that time it got rejected some stupid mistake by my someone in the college

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
in india whom i have to write on the document the dime comment to ucaswohato gave

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
the document saying that i’m moving going on a holiday i’m taking a leaf from the college and going to ukanand

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
coming back and joining it

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
that lady didn’t know it when they called to confirm she said on the phone that don’t know door mornes

andy___chris:
ah

moonis_iqbal:
left for the uk he left you’re to okay so they put me on the charge that i provided some false documentation for the raise

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
and they said you are being to enter the ucipfor next ten years that’s

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
the thousand eight we’re talking about

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
i have done too parts of my dentistry example

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
last part clinical part was left in two thousand and eight i booked that example

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
paid the fees twenty two hundred at that time to the east man and i was with all my lucgagion i think in dell just waiting for my vase

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
i didn’t arrive for one month and just before a week before the exam received in this letter t was a

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
shock that because i have done all my part one part two i did my king’s exams my wives and everything just last part left

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
and then so i have to go back to the college and i didn’t realize that until that’s what happened so i ought i felt that decision with a code case so then i had my my uncle from the to move the case to u k so so they were

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
hearing and car different to nine and then i got to face a sane at the

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
reverse atisation my point was that you cannot ask just a reception

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
on the phone you have to obey the lector of the dean because on my document

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
the letter from the dean of the university that’s where

andy___chris:
wow

moonis_iqbal:
things

andy___chris:
so it wasn’t

moonis_iqbal:
are

andy___chris:
so

moonis_iqbal:
oh

andy___chris:
it wasn’t easy

moonis_iqbal:
okay

andy___chris:
for you at all monies if you could just speak up a bit that would be really

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
help for a move close to the microphone

moonis_iqbal:
okay so

andy___chris:
that

moonis_iqbal:
but

andy___chris:
really help us

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
so and over what at a time did this take

moonis_iqbal:
so i went to india two thousand and seven to apply for my visa for two years for a working vasa

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
uh my example is supposed to be in two thousand and seven camber eighteenth of november two thousand seven

andy___chris:
right

moonis_iqbal:
and then i got a decision from them in october two thousand and seven at the same time i had a bit of a back injury as well i crashed my motor bike in delia i mean both things happened simultaneously and then receiving this letter saying that you’re not allowed to go to apply enter

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
the uclirefor next ten years because you summat some false documentation

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
and then i find out there is just a silly mistake no the reception

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
so i took it to the court because i kind of let my all hard work what i have done for last two years in passing so many exams

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
staying in u k and that code case was continued in cardiff luckily my uncle was here

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
he held that i owned the case i on the right to apply again for the same base

andy___chris:
like lip oh

moonis_iqbal:
so i came back to us nine again to the nine january by the time i came back they’ve changed the exam so there was or i q exam which i started i’ve given two parts on they have changed to rikthire’s a different exampatern

andy___chris:
m m oh

moonis_iqbal:
they offered me one

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
transition

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
face exam but i missed that as well because after code decision it took six months for them to process my vase so i have start from the scratch again two nine all the examples which i have done from two hound six two house seven all three part exams h

andy___chris:
well i’ll tell you

moonis_iqbal:
that

andy___chris:
what you say it’s a real lessening resilience because

moonis_iqbal:
uh

andy___chris:
i’m sure it’s a lot of people that would have kind of tried and it not

moonis_iqbal:
hm

andy___chris:
works out and given up or whatever but the

moonis_iqbal:
uh

andy___chris:
fact that you just kept kind of you

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
know visiting it and pushing and pushing the easy route

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
would have said actually

moonis_iqbal:
it can

andy___chris:
it’s obvious not meant to be yeah i’ll

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
just back of it and pack it in as

moonis_iqbal:
it

andy___chris:
opposed

moonis_iqbal:
can

andy___chris:
to doing what you did which is weally kind of dig deep and keep

moonis_iqbal:
oh

andy___chris:
pushing because it’s something that you wanted so bad i think it’s a great lesson in the

moonis_iqbal:
it keeps getting worse and worse after that there was just a start i mean two thousan nine i came back again then i joined a gentle nurse on the dent nursing

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
coast because i wanted to support

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
myself i cannot live on the ponds of mine and all the time

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
so i did my anividian

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
example rested as a dental nurse i started working for tem dent agency in central london for dental nursing so i did that nursing

andy___chris:
yes

moonis_iqbal:
for two two and a half years in central london example side by side my examplhing was going on as well but because i

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
all of my friends they all have passed things they all have been by the

andy___chris:
hm

moonis_iqbal:
time working as associate

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
so it’s very big transition phase for me at that time to

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
do those exams

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
and it took me finally i passed over fifteen it took me to quote six seven years since then i passed on my last attend i’ll come to that story bit later but you so i started nursing an i don’t want to go on about that just to cut short to

andy___chris:
a

moonis_iqbal:
them so

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
basically a i started then they started a new exam called l d in ten of the first people to apply for that example so i did that example part one i said for part two

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
and i thought of my all my struggles going to end in six months is

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
a good blessing so to ten i gave both parts then suddenly

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
gidicygave the decision saying that they’re not recognizing that l d s examined that year all

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
thirty four forty people who gave that example

andy___chris:
ye

moonis_iqbal:
our results were withheld and we’re not allowed to sit in the or until

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
the decision has been final again the thing a track and then

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
yeah so then i thought and then the nursing was just hand to mouth than living in london and just supporting

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
s why i apply for and my visa was finishing in two years so i apply for clint attachment in one of the hospitals in preston so i call the was also working in mexfikso i moved to preston to live there for one year in lancashire but again they don’t have the job post they want me to work as an attachment as a favorite to visa for me when attachment to all that stuff at a said he was like senior house officers do in mexwex hospital but not getting paid for just giving me counedation i live

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
with that

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
i’m just going wait quickly around to go on on

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
on about the thing so then i got married

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
in two

andy___chris:
but

moonis_iqbal:
house and eleven

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
and i got a daughter in the twelve i was not working while i was still doing attachment and nursing on the side by side they were not proud of the things that i am doing the are from very good family they are very educated much

andy___chris:
but in many ways moon is that that kind of experience you know working as a dental nurse a receptionist you know

moonis_iqbal:
best

andy___chris:
the max

moonis_iqbal:
experience

andy___chris:
facts

moonis_iqbal:
and

andy___chris:
clinical

moonis_iqbal:
best

andy___chris:
attachment

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
and being this your house office all of those things kind of add to the part of building your experience of you

moonis_iqbal:
absolutely

andy___chris:
know integrating yourself into a different form of society and you’re always having to move around the country as well so

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
without doubt it wouldn’t have been easy but the

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
learnings come from there in readiness

moonis_iqbal:
invaluable

andy___chris:
for you then qualifies

moonis_iqbal:
invaluable

andy___chris:
a dentist

moonis_iqbal:
learning

andy___chris:
in the ukantiyapractice

moonis_iqbal:
i can

andy___chris:
owner you know

moonis_iqbal:
i

andy___chris:
you know we know that you and we’ll talk about that in a bit but i think also that probably gives you an invaluable insight that probably most dentists don’t ever have you know

moonis_iqbal:
i

andy___chris:
they’ve never been

moonis_iqbal:
like

andy___chris:
the other person in the room they’ve never been dealing with the reception you know what i mean it’s also

moonis_iqbal:
absolutely

andy___chris:
pretty much more rounded

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
i think lots of dentists they don’t move around that much often they’ll do their foundation year some stay on them as associates in those practices or they might move to another practice but having that ability to move around and pick up you know posit is a negative in different situations in different people in different places early on

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
in your your career in this country i think

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
that would have gone on in your favorite

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
like that american

moonis_iqbal:
hugely

andy___chris:
t v show under cover ball in a way

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
you know you you’re the boss but you’ve sort of spent your time learning some of the things before so as you truly can understand

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
what it’s like not just make the words but

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
actually you’ve experienced it i think that’s probably valuable

moonis_iqbal:
also it helps to connect with them properly so i know when i started associators o t i

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
can exactly feel what they are feeling you know that

andy___chris:
yes

moonis_iqbal:
and

andy___chris:
yes

moonis_iqbal:
that is

andy___chris:
ye

moonis_iqbal:
and that is the common

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
feeling that they work hard and they are always underpaid i can

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
see that feeling so now when i’m as a principal as a prince practice owner

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
i know how to treat them what what what kind of

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
treatment they deserve and if you look at the wages

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
that’s why i’m not making much profit but reason they deserve

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
to be treated that well

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
and you have to see my staff who was working with as associate for they still with me seven

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
years

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
because it’s very difficult to not to win someone’s shoes

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
and impathie or sympathize with them or no you can’t until indes you have lived that life here and if you live to how it is

andy___chris:
i think

moonis_iqbal:
like

andy___chris:
it’s a really good point i think i think the fact that you’ve seen what chris said you’ve seen the other side will make

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
you a very very considerate and caring principle

moonis_iqbal:
ye

andy___chris:
and on that point so you worked for a period of time as an associate and then made the bold

moonis_iqbal:
you

andy___chris:
decision to get into practice ownership and

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
you i’ve got two practices haven’t you you’ve

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
got smiling ken and

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
spardendal are over in essex

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
and i know you like the african proverb

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
alone you can go fast but together you can

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
go

moonis_iqbal:
i had on my list to say that

andy___chris:
i love the phrase as well so you got into practice ownership

moonis_iqbal:
m

andy___chris:
collaborating with others is that is that right

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
how did that come about was that

moonis_iqbal:
okay

andy___chris:
sort of process been like

moonis_iqbal:
so what happened during the lock down time i mean i had a real so all the big incidents in my life i always come out with

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
touch with something to go forward to and learn about it you know if you don’t

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
learn it from it then it doesn’t it doesn’t have any impact

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
lock have a very deep thing just

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
before lock on was about to buy my own first own house and in the february time it just a deal

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
then went through and the same

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
thing happened with that so so but i don’t have that much good understanding of the finance side and business side of the things so i always

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
wanted to be associated

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
with the people who can help me with i mean that’s the one lesson

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
i’ve learned earlier to all the courses and weapons that you cannot do everything by yourself you can’t wear all the heads together

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
if you could cut with clinical catch someone to do the business for you if you are good with the business get someone clinical side for you so that just

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
makes life easy

andy___chris:
and

moonis_iqbal:
so

andy___chris:
i think

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
that is as a tip for people that kind of

moonis_iqbal:
oh yeah i’ll

andy___chris:
the bit

moonis_iqbal:
come

andy___chris:
you’re

moonis_iqbal:
for the

andy___chris:
good

moonis_iqbal:
business

andy___chris:
at

moonis_iqbal:
steps

andy___chris:
but there’s

moonis_iqbal:
her

andy___chris:
other people around you an do the bits

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
you you’re not good at so that

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
you focus on a bit i think

moonis_iqbal:
oh

andy___chris:
chris often says you know you you can make a strength stronger but you can’t turn a weakness into a strength so if it’s something you’re not good at don’t

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
try and you know force yourself to be good at it

moonis_iqbal:
don’t

andy___chris:
if there’s

moonis_iqbal:
don’t

andy___chris:
somebody else out there that could take that role for you

moonis_iqbal:
don’t don’t don’t run away from your weaknesses you know don’t focus on your strength you know

andy___chris:
yes

moonis_iqbal:
because if you keep digging into your weaknesses again and again is after a certain age you cannot learn a few things you know you

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
have to accept

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
that

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
but yeah that is my weakness

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
and i have to play with

andy___chris:
it will

moonis_iqbal:
my

andy___chris:
never

moonis_iqbal:
weakness

andy___chris:
be a strength it will

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
just be less weak

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
then concentrate on what you’re good at

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
so true

moonis_iqbal:
so that’s that’s how this team comes up

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
so i was i was always interested in starting a square practice first because of all

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
these vebinars and everything all king me help me a lot i have to

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
give it to him i mean and i always whenever i meet him that’s first his febinos what he sees

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
he learned in that lock down i followed all those principles so luckily i got my business other business partners who are with

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
me working

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
is associated in my other group of practices so they collaborated with me so we start looking for the location for a squat price it’s doing the lock down so we went out

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
to see quite field locations where we can start so at that time the business was shutting down with quite run down places after

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
initial search and

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
we found this

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
unit right in outlet center it was like a good

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
running out to center in chatter and

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
then we found quite a lot of empty units in that and then we approached

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
the guys i’m just going through it quickly with that because the long turn for

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
at that time as well so on that so

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
we found the unit we started negotiations and everything

andy___chris:
my

moonis_iqbal:
so at that time touch would i know quite a few people in the trip before that because

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
finally passed me on fifteen and then my fit

andy___chris:
my

moonis_iqbal:
sixteen during the holy in all the courses that i need to be

andy___chris:
right

moonis_iqbal:
just working like a six days in a week the mornings i works at as a vtosasate evening i joined that emergency dentisting

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
in the cantebary hospital so i used to do that as well anyway so i touched with

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
my have managed to make quite

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
a good come at that time i see if you practice square practices during the

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
lock down have visited them so i have idea in my head that what i’m exactly looking at so you one a unit of the twenty six hundred square feet is up to

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
units we combined together we have pushed the finance banks and everything

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
but it didn’t go through so the bank refused to do any funding after the lock down saying that squat the way rescue project and all we did work hard for

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
two months on

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
that project between every single thing from business plan

andy___chris:
and it’s

moonis_iqbal:
making

andy___chris:
hard

moonis_iqbal:
the cash

andy___chris:
isn’t because

moonis_iqbal:
cash

andy___chris:
in some

moonis_iqbal:
fellow

andy___chris:
ways your time was good because lots of available space and

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
you know landlords were desperate to get

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
but

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
the flip side of that is that

moonis_iqbal:
o

andy___chris:
the banks at the time

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
were being very cautious

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
in terms and particularly

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
new type practices

moonis_iqbal:
yes

andy___chris:
so ye say what you kind of get with one hand you lose with the other

moonis_iqbal:
at the same time that very good friend of mine rome helped me a lot during my study days and only came up with the offer of this private practice on sale in essex

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
the tents are retiring and he wants to saleihtthe in my squad was not working out so i said okay let’s find let’s do that so we together went to see the practice but liketice a very nice we have kind of

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
small family practice to

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
search a practice all that fun private at that time all the paper work started not during that we’re talking about just after a long time to twenty december time then the january came on

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
and suddenly so at that before that i took some loan from

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
education of my younger brother youngest brother who’s working with tubs now i took that

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
loan for im medichistoren ome masters in metre so i took a loan from dreamer finance company

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
and then the room was finishing in january so the guy just skinned to say thank you and all

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
the signing of the final pisan pieces and just mentioned what you nowadays i just randomly mentioned who was supposed to start the squat

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
practice but the project is dead for two months now because

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
he said

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
i’ll find ance you on his so you show o take investments for looking at four hundred five hundred thousand a year we can do that for you and that’s how it come in place i mean out of nowhere when the whole thing was shut down so that’s another type i want if that don’t don’t give up you know whenever you get a chance

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
if you if you thought about something if you if you’re dreaming back then do make sure that you

andy___chris:
so

moonis_iqbal:
give your hundred and twenty percent to achieve that you never know when the thing comes you know there’s

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
no good or right there’s no right time for anything you know if it’s

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
your time to see your time do and make most of it you know

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m oh completely and that that message

moonis_iqbal:
yhtyou

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about not giving up i think he’s massive and i think you’re

moonis_iqbal:
say

andy___chris:
you’re

moonis_iqbal:
that

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a great example of that

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all my life’s story from the start it just i don’t give up you know some

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andy___chris:
ah

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the whole thing we went back to the landlord

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to negotiate

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yeah

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
but again because i was very new in that i again trying to to the type that

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yeah

moonis_iqbal:
please take advice please take advice from other people who have done that before o good kind people like andicrous you guys and others made who help you for the hold through

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please take do not hesitate to ask for help

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and advice that’s how you built your relation that’s how build a community

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
and so ye so then the whole squatting but it took us for a long time for almost a year to build that thing what the way we wanted it we go slightly over budget and all uh and with all that risk in our head we started that in november ten twenty one touch it with three to four months net west came back and re finance the whole thing but the last one and half to two years it was literally struggled with the finance and everything but

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there’s

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as

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said

andy___chris:
theme here isn’t there about resilience for me i was thinking it’s relentless you know is that

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
sort of as you say resilience

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
being relentless in the past you

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
go back to that very beginning moon that thing kind of what would of things that you learned as a kid that kind of make you the person you

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
are today that kind of

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
your star they haven’t to kind of work hard and not going to dental school close to home and everything else all those things and when you first came to the u k they

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were kind of the building blocks

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for preparing you to go through this process of

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
of setting up a practice moons if you could just move a little bit closer to your microphone that would help

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
us hear you clearly that would be that would

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
be great so yeah so yeah so you managed to get the and you got your funding approved

moonis_iqbal:
yeah so i got we got funding approved and then we start the whole process i again visited a couple of practices we gaut someone as a project manager to look after the whole

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
project

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yeah

moonis_iqbal:
and were trying place all the systems we can place what we have learned through the thing same time i start even i start looking for hiring the staff at the same

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yeah

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time because i know those

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staff who have left mother practices

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yeah

moonis_iqbal:
because of some reason i always keep in touch with them not for the reason that i’m going to open my practice again that’s one more one more less lesson which

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
i learned during the years in my life is that just be kind just be kind in general

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
don’t be kind for the reason and kindness is not it’s not an act that you do that all year you do whatever ship you like to do then you choose when

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moonis_iqbal:
charity at the end of the year give them some money during the ramzan christmas time and then i’m a kind person because i’m doing this kindness no that is not kindness is something that should in your life style you’re treating

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
people well all the way through all your journey

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yeah

moonis_iqbal:
time you

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so that’s what and that’s what

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helped me a lot you know because you

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have to be genuinely kind

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to people

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also i think the inn i think sometimes we never know

moonis_iqbal:
ye

andy___chris:
the impact that it will have

moonis_iqbal:
absolutely

andy___chris:
just a little one line message to somebody or just checking in with somebody or doing something like you say we with no no expectation from it you

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
have no idea in that

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
moment the impact it would have you probably never no never

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
no

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
no that’s right yeah

moonis_iqbal:
so i approached this she was a practice manager for pope at that time complaints

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
manager is a very good salary

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
and i just message her i said see i’m looking to at my

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
scorn things little bit hard i know i

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understand that you’re not very good scale and everything i’ll try

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
my best to make up that base base skill in next couple of months or

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
so but to start with a you have some time and if you

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
interested so sea okay i’ll come and see you mons and then he came to see me

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
and then she said i know i’m making a stupid decision in my life but

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moonis_iqbal:
just

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
i trust you i’ll go with you and then she’ll bring another couple of experienced qualified staff

andy___chris:
yes

moonis_iqbal:
members who’s working

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it’s

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out

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interesting that

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spec

andy___chris:
line you said mons i trust you

moonis_iqbal:
she said to me

andy___chris:
that means a lot doesn’t it

moonis_iqbal:
yeah i keep up my promise

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
so so what happened with them so they all gave them notice to leave their jobs they all

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m

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are save five

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m

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seven years into the dentonersing carrier either this manager or that post then suddenly we have a problem with the builders they didn’t deliver on time now again we have a decision to make whether asked

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oh

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them to go back or ask them to stay

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some other business partners and on the sale they happy

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
to go back and work in their places they are very understanding but i said that i with them promised that

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
in orcus they will be in my surgery now the builders saying they cannot finish before and because of doors or something it’s not delivered in secrecy and all things i said no i want them to be here i don’t

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m

moonis_iqbal:
mind paying them too much two months of extra salary but what i want them in the mean time to build a system place so that was the best decision we have made before the practice start before the squad that patient can walk in our staff was there and they were setting up all

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
the marketing side of things paper were setting the paper work p c folders

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
everything was done the day before we opened the practice oh we take a hit of paying them but that was the best decision we have ever made because when we start

andy___chris:
ah

moonis_iqbal:
the scot

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yeah

moonis_iqbal:
is no running around or no hoshpostthing going on

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start with he started with a good patient list appointment are already booked for first couple of months because the

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yeah

moonis_iqbal:
staff have enough time to

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
do that and then we started and touch first year we got we gross million pound and first year with hesitating

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
to say that is a big achievement by the team and everyone i told media and media was over the moon he said you should come and speak to my course next time i said it’s not

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
me i only worked two days is most the staff and my other

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business partner nail who just nailed it just working working working

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
yeah yes

andy___chris:
i sensed the community in working with others is

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
really important to you you know you

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
you really

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
want to make sure that the people around you are part of it what

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
was behind that what is the thing that kind of why is that so important to you

moonis_iqbal:
as i said this instill in installing me from the earlier days and also as i said that m always motivated

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moonis_iqbal:
influenced by a lot of things like all the good cootagecodes and everything

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
that i heard what i learned in my life at the dialogues and movies and bolivar or whatever just trying to find motivation and some inspiration from every single thing

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
i heard and learned that’s why for me the most useless person is there

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yes

moonis_iqbal:
from whom i have on learned a single thing

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you know because i try to learn

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yeah

moonis_iqbal:
everything even the person can be the proper or whatever the bad you can say but

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
he still have some one or two good qualities you can learn it from and that and that also saying that you know you always be nice to the people on your way up because you may you may find them

andy___chris:
we

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on your

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in fact

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way

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down

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that

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you

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conversation

moonis_iqbal:
know

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yesterday talking but who it was but we said exactly

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
the same thing you never know where you might meet people again

moonis_iqbal:
on the way

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yeah

moonis_iqbal:
down exactly

andy___chris:
and the thing is dangerous to use a small world but going back to your point before

moonis_iqbal:
yeah you ask

andy___chris:
actually

moonis_iqbal:
for the community the

andy___chris:
being nice

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
is pretty easy

moonis_iqbal:
yeah that’s

andy___chris:
and

moonis_iqbal:
just

andy___chris:
i think also you can disagree well does that make search you know if you can disagree

moonis_iqbal:
what

andy___chris:
well you don’t have to get all

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
ye

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
strop and fall out about

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
it you know everyone is entitled to an opinion

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
and if theirs isn’t the same as yours then you can just as you know you just can disagree

moonis_iqbal:
oh

andy___chris:
we i think if you

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
if you only had people around you that agreed with everything you said you probably need more friends

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
you become hitlerisn’t

moonis_iqbal:
uh

andy___chris:
you just it’s healthy

moonis_iqbal:
ah

andy___chris:
to have

moonis_iqbal:
ye

andy___chris:
people chiming in with other ideas and opinions around you because it helps you move forward

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m

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the

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yeah

andy___chris:
emperor’s new clothes isn’t it that great fair return or whatever it was

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people around them you know they try to be more and more

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moonis_iqbal:
i don’t know why they just try to take everything on their own personally goes and everything on to do everything but themselves

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
to give credit to themselves doing by themselves for themselves most a point you know what’s the point

andy___chris:
yes

moonis_iqbal:
it does matter how much better

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yeah

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dentist you are how much big house

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andy___chris:
yeah yeah

moonis_iqbal:
down down the road

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
have those things bigger than even better than you you know you cannot you cannot make that competitin and for

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
you seeing others and competing with them rather than if you try to grow with them

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
make the friends make the life easier for you just be your your own

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competition now i see myself what i was doing last

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
year how i was last year if i’m even a slightest better than last year

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i did well that’s how see wit

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up people as well you know

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one of my cortes from

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oh

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the lot of things you heard this code and my dad used to say very young

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taking when we’re taking

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us to school and all the day god

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has made people and things for two different reason he

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yeah

moonis_iqbal:
has made people to love and things to use

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yeah

moonis_iqbal:
but the problem

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
starts starts happening and we start loving the things and using the

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
people

andy___chris:
yeah

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m m

andy___chris:
i think think you said just if you hold a mirror up to yourself and try and beat yourself and improve yourself suddenly

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
the competition and lots of those external force

moonis_iqbal:
oh yeah

andy___chris:
kind

moonis_iqbal:
trust

andy___chris:
of fade away don’t they because the person you’re really trying to be yourself you’re trying

moonis_iqbal:
no

andy___chris:
to improve as an individual which then means that you end up with the best of life as a result of that

moonis_iqbal:
yeah trust trust me if i hold them where i have hundred and five things to improve in myself you know so i

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moonis_iqbal:
can’t go out and pointing

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
slapping the people about all they don’t do this right they don’t do this right if i’m doing it right then only

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m

moonis_iqbal:
have all the right to say to others you know and that’s what i learn a lot you know that’s one more thing which i feel fail around the world nowadays to day even in the industry as well that when we were going we are kind in the

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
what you say in the life

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
we are in the life

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
of the followers you know we follow someone we following on the sale mark now we are in the age of leaders you know everybody around as a leader or

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
inteprener or doing something in life

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moonis_iqbal:
now you don’t know whom to follow you know because everybody wants to biliatod themselves now you know

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
and that’s what i realize you know that before you have conversation with people at this sky has turned

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m

moonis_iqbal:
so much quivering in life i’m looking to for this person now i speak to the people and everybody is a leader now everybody is a speaker leader it’s very

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
hard to find people you know that’s why i respect you and chris and few of them whom i my mentor like two for my clinical thing my crysoranoman

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
o ther guy whom i used to look forward to so you have to have two important of your mentor in your life there’s another reason

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less than which i thought

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i would share that you have to have

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
some mentor or someone who guided you or you look forward to talking to many

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
other questions just make sure

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
that you’ve got a right mentor in your life

andy___chris:
yeah that’s think i think that’s great advice you

moonis_iqbal:
m

andy___chris:
mentioned before about movies and you said that

moonis_iqbal:
hm

andy___chris:
you see every life situation

moonis_iqbal:
oh

andy___chris:
and problems as a movie can help you solve these issues

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
clear movies particularly bollywoodsis a big part of your life isn’t it

moonis_iqbal:
absolutely the end now if you look at last few years i got my recognition through my bolywoodanyways i tried motentously for five years my friends know me have a big social circle trying paulyword for six months half of the people know

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
me now so for me it paid off

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h

moonis_iqbal:
i genuinely like when i wake up in the morning people check their watch

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ah

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or instrugmwot i just checked my bully news checked my movie news what new coming today what is

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m

moonis_iqbal:
happening for the critics saying about this

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okay

moonis_iqbal:
and yeah

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
have a lot of things from the movies and people and you’re crazy

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m

moonis_iqbal:
even

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
this story when when i got married on my first night to my

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
ex wife we’re having this conversation and she said all those things and i said to s i’m never going to lie and cheat on you in my life

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any time i can live something comes to movie if i went to somehow somewhere on my own i’ve

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oh

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disappe for three hours and i was

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not with other women

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
i might be watching a movie that you

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
don’t want to watch and that’s true it do happen i do go away a lot of time just on my own sometimes

andy___chris:
you’ll

moonis_iqbal:
on my own as well to watch

andy___chris:
have

moonis_iqbal:
the

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to

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movies

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write one moon

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i am

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moon

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is

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process

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the movie or something

moonis_iqbal:
i am in the

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the

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process

andy___chris:
dentist

moonis_iqbal:
actually

andy___chris:
the body or dentists or something

moonis_iqbal:
yeah i’m looking for six six part mine series actually

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
that’s why i’m trying to do all this connective is if somebody else watches it not

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
be a boring document a some fun wat

andy___chris:
well that’s great i

moonis_iqbal:
i

andy___chris:
think you have a

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
great outlook on life i think i think i think you’re your style as a collaborator

moonis_iqbal:
is not

andy___chris:
i think

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
a lot of people can

moonis_iqbal:
that

andy___chris:
can learn a huge amount from how you go about it you know you

moonis_iqbal:
that’s that’s

andy___chris:
you seem to be rich

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
as a result of that as an approach in

moonis_iqbal:
that’s

andy___chris:
life

moonis_iqbal:
very kind that’s another thing after lock down i come up when i was in lock down i just realized that what if really this happens like that is never world is never going to open again what will

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happen in all those things i was thinking

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of the movie kind of things as well and i said okay so next for two years

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i’m going to attend every single

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oh

moonis_iqbal:
until when every single social invitation i’m not going

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oh

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to refuse any friends house warming party to marriage or

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h

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whatever is happening

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m yeah

moonis_iqbal:
even if they’re having sound funeral i will still go for it you know

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
i come up with that mind set after the lock

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
down and that’s why i’ve just been all over the place but the only reason is that okay i’m working six days a week that’s always been

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down again you have to that inside like now

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m and i know you’re not just saying it

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oh

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oure living it because

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yeah you

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you

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see

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when i go

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big

andy___chris:
to the dentinltubals congress you’re right there in the center we drew helping organize it and making sure things happen and

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
giving so much of your time likewise the b a c d and

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
the ida

moonis_iqbal:
yeah and

andy___chris:
you’re

moonis_iqbal:
it’s

andy___chris:
you’re really at the front and your giving your time you’re

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
benefiting and learning from it but so is a dental community

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
and it you’re

moonis_iqbal:
it’s all

andy___chris:
ready

moonis_iqbal:
voluntary

andy___chris:
living what you say you’re not someone

moonis_iqbal:
ye

andy___chris:
who just says you actually doing it

moonis_iqbal:
yeah fortibus as well as i said on the stage when given me a word that i’m just going to make sure that i have no financial interest in tivils

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
i haven’t received any fun i haven’t given any funds is not to do monetary because that’s another thing

andy___chris:
h

moonis_iqbal:
about the people nowadays you know whatever you think

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
first thing they ask what’s your benefit in there and while you’re doing

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
it and which is completely but that’s the kind of world we’re looking at you know the people everything i think is for free you know but yeah

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
that’s

andy___chris:
i think that says i think that says more about them than new moon i think you understand why you’re doing it i think or clear what what you’re getting out of it and is not

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
monetary is not financial

moonis_iqbal:
exactly

andy___chris:
you’re you’re growing so much as a result of being in the thick of

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
the profession

moonis_iqbal:
that’s the thing you have to make as i said i mean no one

andy___chris:
i

moonis_iqbal:
cares what kind of industry you’re doing at

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
the end of the dent affecting them but if you are meeting people just just be kind just be genuine you know you don’t have to say what what

andy___chris:
it’s a

moonis_iqbal:
you

andy___chris:
bit

moonis_iqbal:
work

andy___chris:
counter

moonis_iqbal:
at

andy___chris:
cultural isn’t it where people assume

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
people

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
are doing stuff because it’s only for them as opposed to actually

moonis_iqbal:
a

andy___chris:
you know i’m doing it for me not to remote and also i’m doing it for other people it’s almost like really

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
here must be something if the the thing

moonis_iqbal:
that’s

andy___chris:
is monisisis a shining example that it also comes with success it’s not you now you don’t

moonis_iqbal:
you

andy___chris:
do

moonis_iqbal:
have

andy___chris:
that

moonis_iqbal:
to

andy___chris:
and

moonis_iqbal:
be

andy___chris:
you’re

moonis_iqbal:
patient

andy___chris:
always a

moonis_iqbal:
be

andy___chris:
person

moonis_iqbal:
patient it all happens be patient it happens bound to happen that’s why when we have a discussion and about the photos and pictures so that’s the reason i said i don’t take pictures too remote social media i do take for a different reason

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
than that i explained to him the day that year because

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
at the end

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
that was the whole point you know and a

andy___chris:
yeah absolutely absolutely we always we always finish up in the same way

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
we always ask our guests the same two

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
questions

moonis_iqbal:
now

andy___chris:
at the end and the first one we’ve got for you if you could be a fly on a wall

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
in a certain situation when would that be and

moonis_iqbal:
m

andy___chris:
who would you who would you be with

moonis_iqbal:
okay so

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
after giving a very long thought from like hundred places i wanted to be movies and all

andy___chris:
eh

moonis_iqbal:
i choose in the two thousand eleven cricket word cup and india on the world

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
cup sorry

andy___chris:
uh

moonis_iqbal:
i want

andy___chris:
uh

moonis_iqbal:
to be on that

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
cup when sita holding it just

andy___chris:
that would

moonis_iqbal:
to

andy___chris:
be a very

moonis_iqbal:
say

andy___chris:
special moment

moonis_iqbal:
just to see

andy___chris:
ah

moonis_iqbal:
and feel that moment because

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
that is some in magic

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
it’s amazin

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
being an indian the two things you live on movies and bolli create and vale and then it’s a perfect script for him

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
to retire at the perfect moment for him

andy___chris:
lovely

moonis_iqbal:
he’s been amazing in whatever he did so yeah that’s the moment i want you to be in and a fly

andy___chris:
very nice

moonis_iqbal:
whichever

andy___chris:
very

moonis_iqbal:
capacity

andy___chris:
sweet very sweet and

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
if you

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
could if you could meet anybody anybody at all who would

moonis_iqbal:
okay

andy___chris:
you like to meet given opportunity

moonis_iqbal:
okay so i thought that about as well a lot and i got a lot of people i got some funny people and everybody but then as

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
last night i had a different thing in my head but then since ning i’m just thinking probably want to be two

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
people in the last few years who left he

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
left the world

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
have a very huge impact on even as my dad when my father and wanted to know so i just want to be one more time with my dad for a specific reason

andy___chris:
oh

moonis_iqbal:
you’ve seen me i’m the man of self is have taken self

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
with pretty much every single person just for the reason i have no

andy___chris:
hm

moonis_iqbal:
self with my own dad you

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
know because i passed it of thirty and i didn’t have opportunity

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
to do that so that’s one then i learned a very small lesson just quickly just summarize it that yeah we always reed for the big things like when he passed away i thought we had never been to uk he never seen my daughter and all those things but then

andy___chris:
we

moonis_iqbal:
over the time i realized that these regrets are nothing that small riggers are much harder like i should have taken up more pictures

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
with him i should have chatted with him more

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
or i should have done this with him so saying i wanted to be i just want to take a picture and they have touch one first i went to meet again

andy___chris:
no it’s funny i was thinking but i know you

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
posted recently you posted a picture on facebook and it took

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
me back to our very first conversation when we met and then

moonis_iqbal:
absolutely

andy___chris:
you said i come get a photograph together and you told me that that story about your dad and i’ll just read out what you posted on face book it says i take a lot of pictures and videos of everything around me i used to think

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
that was lame but once

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
i lost people in years past and i started at the sound of their voices and the lines of their skin

moonis_iqbal:
oh

andy___chris:
i change my mind i’d rather have too many

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
memories are not enough and i think

moonis_iqbal:
absolutely

andy___chris:
that feeds just

moonis_iqbal:
that’s

andy___chris:
back into

moonis_iqbal:
sunrise

andy___chris:
what you said

moonis_iqbal:
everything

andy___chris:
about about your

moonis_iqbal:
thank

andy___chris:
dad

moonis_iqbal:
you

andy___chris:
i think

moonis_iqbal:
yea

andy___chris:
is terrific

moonis_iqbal:
and that same with no i went quite a few games with him for as matches and everything and literally if you would have seen his facebookball after that jesus christ is like everybody talking the same thing about him and i’m not one of his best friends or anything like that for him to be but that impacted me so badly that i have changed so many things my life since then thinking that just nothing is permanent you know you can’t be running around the things and chasing it

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
work hard for it think but at the same time you should eat your fruits

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
while not wait for them to ripe and come out of the tree just eat them along you know then only it’s all worth it and in personal family the family people community yeah

andy___chris:
that’s great that’s lovely

moonis_iqbal:
okay

andy___chris:
well mon it’s been an absolute pleasure i

moonis_iqbal:
thank

andy___chris:
think you’ve

moonis_iqbal:
you

andy___chris:
got

moonis_iqbal:
guys

andy___chris:
a

moonis_iqbal:
there’s

andy___chris:
story

moonis_iqbal:
just

andy___chris:
that

moonis_iqbal:
one

andy___chris:
people are going no absolutely love to

moonis_iqbal:
just

andy___chris:
listen

moonis_iqbal:
one

andy___chris:
to

moonis_iqbal:
one last

andy___chris:
thank

moonis_iqbal:
thing

andy___chris:
you

moonis_iqbal:
which i am going to probably start in next six months or so very small kind of things nothing to money or anything a lot of things happening in the interustry people having hard tie paper had strokes

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
people committing society so much of stress going on

andy___chris:
m

moonis_iqbal:
i’m just thinking of something of charity line or something just to talk to people so if anybody wants to check anything any time of the they standing with a message text me i’m happy to give half an hour every day just to check them i do chat

andy___chris:
ye

moonis_iqbal:
a lot of overseas antes and ever more pleased if anybody going through any of the

andy___chris:
yeah

moonis_iqbal:
stresses please m

andy___chris:
very generous of your mind is what we’ll do is we’ll put your will put your social media links in the show notes so

moonis_iqbal:
please

andy___chris:
when people

moonis_iqbal:
i

andy___chris:
listen

moonis_iqbal:
will

andy___chris:
through

moonis_iqbal:
chat

andy___chris:
they’ll

moonis_iqbal:
about

andy___chris:
be able

moonis_iqbal:
you

andy___chris:
to

moonis_iqbal:
this properly

andy___chris:
click through and

moonis_iqbal:
some

andy___chris:
find

moonis_iqbal:
of the time

andy___chris:
you afterwards

moonis_iqbal:
here i will chat with you about this properly the time or some other time

andy___chris:
and i

moonis_iqbal:
there’s

andy___chris:
look forward

moonis_iqbal:
something

andy___chris:
to that

moonis_iqbal:
something i’m working on it for couple of and

andy___chris:
brilliant lovely i will let you go

moonis_iqbal:
thank you guys

andy___chris:
much

moonis_iqbal:
thank you so much for

andy___chris:
to day

moonis_iqbal:
absolute pleasure

andy___chris:
he’s been

moonis_iqbal:
sorry

andy___chris:
really

moonis_iqbal:
i didn’t

andy___chris:
fabulous

moonis_iqbal:
make it too funny but i’m just trying to make it more useful thank you so much

andy___chris:
it was it was it was

moonis_iqbal:
yeah

andy___chris:
it was really good really useful so very enjoyable chat as well an interesting story absolutely

moonis_iqbal:
thank you

andy___chris:
lovely cheers

moonis_iqbal:
thank

andy___chris:
me and

moonis_iqbal:
you

andy___chris:
just

moonis_iqbal:
so

andy___chris:
keep

moonis_iqbal:
much

andy___chris:
well

moonis_iqbal:
thank you

andy___chris:
yes oh

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